Flaming Gorge 7-31-08 to 8-3-08

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Flaming Gorge 7-31-08 to 8-3-08

Postby HiTechKoke » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:20 pm

I just got back from Kokanee Mecca or was that Kokanee Heaven? Well it’s both if you consider what the offerings are at Flaming Gorge… the ultimate Kokanee destination! I’ve been a bit jealous of hearing all the great trip reports from the last two years so I finally figured out how I might get there without pulling the boat on the long journey with other California Kokanee addicts making their annual trips out there. The solution was to bid and win the trip earlier this year at the Kokanee Power Banquet ala the live auction. The trip was setup through Jared Johnson, owner of Rocky Mountain Tackle and Radical Glo Tubes. Karla and I flew out there Thursday morning and Jared picked us up and we got settled in up at the Buckboard Marina early afternoon.

I hate to call this a fishing trip because it was short on “fishing” and all about “catching” big Kokanee and refining your reeling techniques, downrigger practice, netting techniques and how to keep lines in the water when the bite was on which was next to impossible. Those who watch NASCAR can relate easily to being a pit crew in action every minute but working for several hours straight till you have a chance to breathe after the morning bite slowed down a bit.

We warmed up by fishing Thursday afternoon for about 3 hours or just a mile or so away from Buckboard Marina which was where Jared was conveniently located with his boat in the slip. It took us about 5 minutes to hook a fish… a slow bite to Jared he told us but we managed to go through a couple dozen fish or so to get warmed up on all the gear and how to finesse and muscle these 3 to 4 lb brutes. A slow bite.. yah right! An afternoon swim got us relaxed and cooled off in the high desert atmosphere.

On Friday we headed out at o-dark thirty 25 minutes south to another popular spot for Jared and there were a number of boats showing up as well. Unlike the slow bite from yesterday it took us about a minute to get into fish and it didn’t slow down for us until a couple of hours. Jared kept asking me why I was laughing so much while we couldn’t keep a line down and I just told him this was insane fishing and now I’m spoiled for life! We went in for a wonderful lunch and then the famous wind came up after that so we were done for the day.

Sat – Carbon copy Friday report. Jared had two radio fishing shows to call in live to and of course while he is on the air we scored a double and he had fun trying to net and talk at the same time which was hilarious as he accidentally hung up the phone as it was wedged between his head and shoulder while trying to net. We had already C&R'd 21 fish the last 75 minutes. We came in early afternoon and Jared took us on a wonderful tour of the scenic part of the Gorge and lunch at the Red Canyon summit (see photos). What an awesome place and stark contrast of climates from the middle part of the lake.

Sunday – Another carbon copy from Sat… monster bite the first few hours and then a steady bite the rest if the day till we had to leave the lake around 2 or so. We did fish a few different areas and found a few fish that snapped our fresh 12lb leaders during their aerial displays which were incredible but of course depressing as we think they were some of the biggest fish of the trip since we saw them do it while showing off their acrobatic skill.

Fishing setups – Incredibly simple and deadly…

– RMT White UV, Pink UV and Clear UV Hoochies in that order of dominance.
– Pair that with a RMT Blue Bahama or Hyper Plaid Dodger
– Tipped with a Berkeley Gulp maggots used on single hook rigs for everything which let us get a fish unhooked quickly for a release.
– Throw on some Pro-Cure scent as well every once in a while… we used mainly Herring and Crawfish.

Fish were 40 to 60 foot deep and all in good shape with only a couple that were turning pink. Our fish were mostly in the mid 3 lb range on up to over 4 lbs. We were hoping to get a five pound class fish of course but those bad boys were elusive and a few of our bigger ones were lost through aerials or tug-of-war antics during the fight.

With all that said I was amazed at the sustained bite we had over 4 days and in listening to the VHF radio and observing the other boats we were out-fishing them 10 to 1 or more so we had a fleet of followers and people checking us out through video cameras and binoculars which was a bit entertaining and Jared swore they all must be Californians... :-) I said Yep... I have a pair in my boat... BUSTED!

Those that knew Jared came over to get the tips and he floated them some rigged up Hoochies so they could get into the action. It was absolute Kokanee nirvana to partake of such a great fishery and be with a guy who has the lake dialed in every day with the setups, locations and making Kokanee fishing look so easy. Obviously I’m already thinking about next year.

I want to thank Jared Johnson for the awesome trip he provided for us as he took care of so many details in advance and this was a trip we won't ever forget. I just need to figure out how to retire early and move closer and start a resort called "KokaneeLand".

On with the pictures…. I have a number of videos I may try to get up on Youtube this week as well.

1. The first signs to Flaming Gorge!

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2. The Marina Store.... are we fishing yet?

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3. How could we possibly drive 5 1/2... Kokanee are waiting our arrival

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4. Part of the Marina in the distance.

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5. A common pose that repeated itself.. oh about 150 times just for me over 4 days!

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6. One of the very few fish with color.

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7. Karla shows off her big fish.

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8. A nice bright fish.

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9. A couple more slugs!

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10. Stepping up the game with another one we saved for pictures.

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11. A new pose I learned from Jared to make a fish look bigger than life. For some reason these fish don't really need photo tricks. :)

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12. No corn allowed in the Gorge... we went through a full jar of these maggots.

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13. Our last photo fish of the trip and our gracious host Jared Johnson on the left.

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14. Touring the Flaming Gorge end...spectacular stuff and pictures do not do it justice.

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15. Spectacular stuff... There are Kokanee down at this end but not as many and generally a bit smaller, of course that means they are still bigger than California Kokanee. The water is about 1400 feet below and we are at about 7500 feet.

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16. More flaming walls.

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17. Below the dam, the famous Green River a trophy trout fishery.

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18. On the way back to Salt Lake City Jared has a special hole in the wall family owned Chinese place that served excellent meals.. a sweet and sour chicken like no other I have eaten. We loved the name of the restaurant so it was worthy of a few pictures. :-)

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19. This place has been around a long time and is a family run operation.

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Postby topfuelkokanee » Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:18 pm

Awesome Kevin! Your phone report from the airport was good but the pictures are amazing. My wife and I agree that we need to go there soon!
Thanks for the report...or wait...are you just rubbing it in that you went and we didn't get to go!
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Postby kokaneemart » Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:16 am

Kevin,

Awesome report and great pictures! Jared is a lot of fun and a great fisherman. Glad you had the opportunity to go with your wife and enjoy the world class kokanee fishing!!

Are there enough Cali's ready to go to do a KP derby next year?? I think the 4th of July looks good and they even sell fireworks in Wyoming!!

Jared...I'm kinda hurt 'cause I thought the Hoho has our special place! :D The food is excellent and it is a great "local" find.

Thanks for sharing your trip with us!!
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Postby fishintrippz » Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:41 pm

Awesome report Kevin! I am glad you guys had a good time and were able to go together :)

Nice pose in picture 11! So are Rachel and Jenna drooling over those pictures yet?

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Postby Fallriverguy » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:49 am

Outstanding report. One of these days I'll make my way over to fish FG. I have been using those GULP maggots some in Oregon. Most days it seems corn does better, but sometimes the maggots are the key.

From the pictures the leaders seem fairly long between the dodger and the hoochie. The action of the hoochie must have been fairly subtle.

Thanks for the pictures too!
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Postby mike » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:48 pm

My wife and I pulled our boat to FG at the end of July and enjoyed the fabulous fishing there. No only did we catch lots of the big kokanee, but we pulled in some equally big and beautiful rainbow trout, lake trout and one stunning brown trout--we released each one, and it was an equal pleasure to watch them quickly swim back into the depths. We experienced the same phenomenon of catching so many fish so fast that we could not get any rods back into the water before the next fish was on. Hard to believe, but we sure intend to go back!
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Postby HiTechKoke » Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:11 pm

Tripps - You know you need to get out there for sure.

Mike - Sounds like you were spoiled on your trip as well and might have been there the last day of the month when I was there too. Were you launching at Buckboard?

FallRiverGuy - The leaders ranged from 8 to 10.5 inches to the back hook, all behind the medium size sling blade dodger. It did not seem to matter, The speeds were usually 1.5 to 1.7. I should post over on the Ifish board I suppose as there are probably some Koke addicts there that might be interested in Flaming Gorge fishing.
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Postby mike » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:35 am

HTK--Had to check calendar as it already seems like so long ago--we returned 25 july. We rented a marina slip at Buckboard--the staff there was just super, and it worked out great. Since we had never been on the lake before, we purchased a FG res lake map (Fish-n-Map Co) which was helpful in planning our daily routes and for staying over the channel areas. The map is available at the Buckboard Marina. I watched the sonar more than usual, as I was not familiar with the areas we fished. We did find a few "bottom surprises" ,and managed to keep the downriggers clear, but the reason I mention the sonar was the incredible picture into the vast amounts of life in the lake. It was a constant parade of bait fish balls, circling predator fish, and schools of kokanee.--Mike
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Postby HiTechKoke » Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:29 am

Mike - Yep you left before I got there. The staff at Buckboard is excellent and the facilities are good. Nice clean showers available at the store too if you did not realize it. $4.00 a session and no shortage of hot water.

I saw the same map of the Gorge... and joked with my wife that when I buy one of those you'll know I am a regular... I own all of the California ones for the Kokanee lakes like most everyone else. Since we were with Jared no map needed. He said there are no trees at that end which is good so it is tougher to get in trouble. :D I haven't checked yet whether Lowrance or Navionics had the bottom contours for FG built into the units or a chip as that would be worthwhile.
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Postby Fallriverguy » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:04 pm

Do you have any idea why the kokanee in FG get so big?
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Postby mike » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:50 pm

Re why the kokanee get so big--I am not a fish biologist, but part of the reason just has to be a super abundance of the right foods! The bait-fish activity on the sonar was incredible.--Mike
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Postby mike » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:53 pm

I guess I should also say that I know kokanee primarily eat plankton, not bait fish, but my point is that it appeared to me to be an incredibly rich food-chain, from bottom to top. Even the ospreys looked very well fed and had mutiple chicks.--Mike
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Postby HiTechKoke » Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:07 pm

That would be my answer as well in that the food chain is firing on all cylinders and at looking at the water you can tell it is very rich in zoo / phytoplankton. It has a pretty deep green to it that is interesting and you can tell it is a pretty rich food source. Other factors I've heard mentioned are that they have more fish that are from a 4 year strain instead of a 3 so that extra year can make a difference. I'm not a biologist / scientist though even though I play one at home with my aquariums... I had shrimp propagate successfully in my tank recently... does that count? :D

Other interesting things I heard while out there is they have in lake propagation and not through a normal gravel bed feeder river / stream. Apparently the fish spawn in some areas that have enough current or maybe springs in the lake to sustain the eggs that are put in certain areas (probably fine shale gravel in looking at the rocks). All of it is fascinating but in the end they get much bigger there for sure.
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Postby HiTechKoke » Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:01 pm

I finally got around to posting up some short Youtube videos taken from the camera on our Flaming Gorge trip of the general catching action.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=DB38E8B13FFE60DA

They are all short videos... and there is a Play All Videos link on the right. Make sure to click on the "Watch in High Quality" link under the video when it first starts playing as this makes them look a lot better.

Some videos are better than other as we are not professionals but we captured a few moments on each fish which was not easy since they were in and out and back in the water very quickly One of my favorites is when a fish went airborne several time and tail walked to the boat..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TVcGOGi348

Enjoy!
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Postby Fallriverguy » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:46 am

Thanks for sharing those. I enjoyed very much!

I have also heard of shore spawning kokanee in Wallowa lake. That lake produced the state record kokanee for Oregon. This year several fish over 20 inches were caught.
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